How do you report from the world’s most violent places? Aminatta Forna talks to Ben Rawlence, a senior researcher on Africa for Human Rights Watch and author of Radio Congo, the first book to see the Congolese as people rather than victims. He is joined by James Fergusson, an expert on Somalia and author of The World’s Most Dangerous Place.  What do these places say about the future of Africa, and how do you get to the truth without being killed?